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he's not going to win the election with this debate. what he can do is to start setting a whole new narrative for him in this debate. that's what he can expect to accomplish. in the president's case, the president is going to have to deal with the economic numbers, have to deal with the libya issue. >> as a debater how do you rate president obama? >> i think he's very good. i think both of them are playing the game. president obama was saying something the other day, i'm not really a good debater. gee -- >> they're both very, very smart guys. >> if you talk about the top 1%, intellect, these guys are in the top 1%. there's nothing to choose between them on intellect. there's a lot to choose between them on policy. i hope they get into a good discussion of policy because from my point of view i think romney would get the better of that but i'm not sure. we'll see. >> we looked at past debates. some folks seem to get into trouble when they start debating over the debate rules themselves. i want to play a quick montage of stuff. >> i have
he's not going to win the election with this debate. what he can do is to start setting a whole new narrative for him in this debate. that's what he can expect to accomplish. in the president's case, the president is going to have to deal with the economic numbers, have to deal with the libya issue. >> as a debater how do you rate president obama? >> i think he's very good. i think both of them are playing the game. president obama was saying something the other day, i'm not really...
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and nobody can say anymore that this is the seinfeld election, that it's an election about nothing. this is a substantive, profound disagreement. not only about health care, taxes, spending, economy, jobs and trade, and frankly a lot of moral and cultural issues didn't get discussed last night but i'm sure will be, but it's really about two stark choices for very different futures for america. >> cornell, do you agree with that, that it was the most substantive debate you've seen? >> if you're in a fantasy land, because here, you've got a guy who put out a $5 trillion tax plan and all of a sudden, he disavowed that. you've got a guy who put together a health care plan in massachusetts that we sort of modeled our health care plan off, but all of a sudden, that's fantasy. what you had last night was one of the most clearly blatantly dishonest performances by someone running for the presidency of the united states i think we have ever seen in modern time. >> cornell, appreciate it. ralph, thank you very much. >> thank you. >>> coming up, body language speaks volumes in a presidential d
and nobody can say anymore that this is the seinfeld election, that it's an election about nothing. this is a substantive, profound disagreement. not only about health care, taxes, spending, economy, jobs and trade, and frankly a lot of moral and cultural issues didn't get discussed last night but i'm sure will be, but it's really about two stark choices for very different futures for america. >> cornell, do you agree with that, that it was the most substantive debate you've seen?...
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both campaigns view this as a base election. you have here a leading conservative, potential 2016 candidate if mitt romney loses and the vice president of the united states, a leading liberal who hasn't ruled out a 2016 run of his own. >> there's a 2016 subplot already going on? >> it's not even such a subplot. >> it's not even over yet. 2012 is not even over. you're exhausting me. you kidding me? what, you think because they both have an eye on 2016 already? >> without a doubt. look, if mitt romney loses, and paul ryan turns in a strong performance not only in this debate but in the final four weeks, he would be the odds-on early front-runner. very, very, very early front-runner. joe biden, a lot of people say wait a minute, he would be too old. trust me. he's told his political team rule nothing out. is he just saying that because if he rules out running, he loses leverage, loses stature. maybe, if you talk to his team, he's going to keep looking at it. they say he feels great. >> it's exhausting. >> i know, tell me about it.
both campaigns view this as a base election. you have here a leading conservative, potential 2016 candidate if mitt romney loses and the vice president of the united states, a leading liberal who hasn't ruled out a 2016 run of his own. >> there's a 2016 subplot already going on? >> it's not even such a subplot. >> it's not even over yet. 2012 is not even over. you're exhausting me. you kidding me? what, you think because they both have an eye on 2016 already? >> without...
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you get closer to the election, the race is bound to tighten. the president wasn't going to go out and win all these states by seven, eight, nine points. the result is going to be 51-52 to 48-49, somewhere in that range. so i think that what you're seeing here is that republicans and people who are predisposed to liking romney came home. they decided that yes, mitt romney was their candidate. that doesn't mean he was able to really effectively define who he was and where his campaign would take this country. >> bill, are you arguing that president obama did what he needed to do in that debate, that he actually did well in that debate? >> i'm arguing that the race has remained very stable. since the debate. and even though romney may have gotten a boost, the race is not fundamentally changed. if you look at some place like ohio, keep in mind, that cnn polls had him 51-47. president obama won ohio by four points. so i don't think we're at a point where people need to panic. in a close race you have to be attentive to any shifts in the dynamics, bu
you get closer to the election, the race is bound to tighten. the president wasn't going to go out and win all these states by seven, eight, nine points. the result is going to be 51-52 to 48-49, somewhere in that range. so i think that what you're seeing here is that republicans and people who are predisposed to liking romney came home. they decided that yes, mitt romney was their candidate. that doesn't mean he was able to really effectively define who he was and where his campaign would take...
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it's what this election is about. for mr. romney, that was then. now on that, a number of issues, he seems to be trying to downplay what he once described as his severely conservative record and recast himself as more centrist on some issues. the shift began a moment after this handshake in denver. he was insistent on government regulation, education and health care. >> how would repeal it? >> it's a lengthy discussion, but number one, preexisting conditions are covered under my plan. >> that assurance is misleading, and later on an adviser had to clarify what mr. romney actually meant. under mr. romney's plan, he said, preexisting conditions would only be covered for people who already have insurance to begin with, but are changing jobs and, therefore, health insurance plans. that's not what most people think of when it comes to preexisting conditions. ironically, the health care law that mitt romney signed in massachusetts and remains in place, it does allow for preexisting conditions whether they have health cainsurance or not. we will be watchi
it's what this election is about. for mr. romney, that was then. now on that, a number of issues, he seems to be trying to downplay what he once described as his severely conservative record and recast himself as more centrist on some issues. the shift began a moment after this handshake in denver. he was insistent on government regulation, education and health care. >> how would repeal it? >> it's a lengthy discussion, but number one, preexisting conditions are covered under my...
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i just believe this number shouldot determine the outcome of the presidential election. did you see today -- >> i agree with you. jack, you're a hero to business people in this country. you're a hero to all sorts of people. just do it now. do it. i can go back to loving you and you can go back to loving me. just do it now and say it's not right what you said. nobody cooked the books. you don't truly believe that, do you? >> i said i should have put a question mark at the back of it. >> would you argue that you were being provocative and had you put a question mark it would have been seen as more of a provocative statement rather than factual -- >> it would have been a better statement. there's no question. i put a question mark. look at my tweet last night. i looked -- go look at the tweet at 11:00 last night after i came back from looking at chaplain. i came back and tweeted last month it was the participation rate assumption. how many assumptions will there be tomorrow morning, we'll have to wait and see. >> there will be another number coming out just days before the
i just believe this number shouldot determine the outcome of the presidential election. did you see today -- >> i agree with you. jack, you're a hero to business people in this country. you're a hero to all sorts of people. just do it now. do it. i can go back to loving you and you can go back to loving me. just do it now and say it's not right what you said. nobody cooked the books. you don't truly believe that, do you? >> i said i should have put a question mark at the back of it....
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i think the fact that our country decided to elect the best man for the job says that there's a lot of hope in our society, but we have to also realize there's a lot of psychological poison still floating around as it relates to race and there are individuals who are able to exploit that poison to extract vulnerabilities from their competitor. right now, president obama is doing a wonderful job with his campaign and if i were a republican, without any sort of ethical standing, i probably would try something like this but the fact is i don't think it's going to work for most of the american people. i also think that people know that president obama was once affiliated with jeremiah wright and i don't think that this is going to go much further than a 24-hour news cycle. >> paul, do you see it being brought up at the debate tomorrow night? obviously this is being kind of revealed in a big way on the blogosphere on the eve of the debate. >> if i worked for mitt romney i would instruct him to bring it up. >> you would. >> bring it up to knock it down. to disavow it. in other words, romney,
i think the fact that our country decided to elect the best man for the job says that there's a lot of hope in our society, but we have to also realize there's a lot of psychological poison still floating around as it relates to race and there are individuals who are able to exploit that poison to extract vulnerabilities from their competitor. right now, president obama is doing a wonderful job with his campaign and if i were a republican, without any sort of ethical standing, i probably would...
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. >>> less than 24 hours from now, with the election five weeks away, president obama and mitt romney will face off. both men have been prepping heavily. evidence shows presidential debates can shift a race. joining me now alan schroeder, a professor of the school of journalism in northeast university in boston. author of "presidential debates, 50 years of high-risk tv" and patrick millsap who served as chief of staff in newt gingrich's campaign. patrick, you say that newt gingrich's pious baa loney line is one of the strongest hits during his campaign run against mitt romney. >> can we drop some of the pious baloney? you ran in '94 and lost. that's why you weren't serving in the senate for rick santorum. suddenly citizenship showed up in your mind, level with the american people. you have been running since the 1990s. >> how much of those zingers are pre-thought out and what does mitt romney have to do to avoid taking a big hit tomorrow night? >> that was all newt. part of great thing about newt, he knew the topic, knew the weak points, but prepared to answer the question. if you can
. >>> less than 24 hours from now, with the election five weeks away, president obama and mitt romney will face off. both men have been prepping heavily. evidence shows presidential debates can shift a race. joining me now alan schroeder, a professor of the school of journalism in northeast university in boston. author of "presidential debates, 50 years of high-risk tv" and patrick millsap who served as chief of staff in newt gingrich's campaign. patrick, you say that newt...
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is this going to have any impact on this election? absolutely not. this is nothing more than sean hahnity's infan situation with reverend jeremiah wright, pure and simple. >> is there a significance to this you believe? >> i think that there is no material significance here, but the republicans are very good at taking nothing and turning it into what appears to be something. we have to remember that we live in a country that has for 400 years poisoned by the psychological disease of racism and it doesn't take much to spark that back up. look at what president obama is saying you wouldn't hear white politicians saying what he said, because african-americans have a unique history in this country. we have a history of documented discrimination, that is -- effectively undeniable. look at what happened with katrina anybody in their right mind would say there was disparity there. and any president white or black should note that, not as criticism of greatness of america, but as an opportunity for our country to get a little bit better. >> that's what presi
is this going to have any impact on this election? absolutely not. this is nothing more than sean hahnity's infan situation with reverend jeremiah wright, pure and simple. >> is there a significance to this you believe? >> i think that there is no material significance here, but the republicans are very good at taking nothing and turning it into what appears to be something. we have to remember that we live in a country that has for 400 years poisoned by the psychological disease of...